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Old Nov 11, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37   #1
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I just registered here because I am looking for help from you guys. I have played pve for some time and completed every chapter. But now I want to play alliance battle and I need a good build for it. Can you guys help me?

Right now I use an axe and I really like it (I think it looks nice) so I'd prefer that.

PS I meant new to alliance battle not to guild wars.

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Old Nov 11, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10   #2
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[build prof=w axe=12+1 str=12+1+1][warrior's endurance][dismember][power attack][protector's strike][bull's strike][frenzy][sprint][lion's comfort][/build]

standard DPS meta build. Will do just fine, although there are better classes to play in AB than warriors imo.
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Old Nov 11, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25   #3
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build above is ok,i would recomend using an ele,ranger,monk,rit,derv or sin for AB though.
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Old Nov 11, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #4
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[defy pain][flail][dismember][executioner's strike][disrupting chop][rush][bull's strike][lion's comfort]

Defy Pain in AB is so annoying. You can keep enemies tied up for minutes on end, keeping them from doing anything useful - giving you a reason to trash talk in global chat as well

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Old Nov 11, 2008, 06:01 PM // 18:01   #5
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1. [build prof=warri/eleme axemas=12+1+1 streng=12+1 airmag=3][eviscerate][executioner's strike][disrupting chop][shock][bulls strike][frenzy][rush][Resurrection Signet][/build]

2. [build prof=W/any Axe=12+1+1 Strength=12+1][Dismember][Power Attack][Protector's Strike][Bull's Strike][Frenzy][Rush][Warrior's Endurance][Resurrection Signet][/build]

3. [build prof=Warrior/any Axe=12+1+1 Strength=12+1][Dismember][Body Blow][Executioner's Strike][optional][Bulls str][Frenzy][Battle Rag][res sig][/build]
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Conjure anything
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46   #6
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To tell you the truth warriors are a very weak prof to use in AB imo. However, i would suggest using Defy Pain as you elite then adding in speed boost, snare, and IAS and some attack skills and youre set.
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35   #7
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this is what i used when i had a warrior:

[frenzy][magehunters smash][pulverizing smash][fierce blow][heavy blow][bull's strike][enraging charge][lions comfort]

I know its hammer, but ppl above have already posted decent axe builds so heres for ya if u go hammer.
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 03:37 AM // 03:37   #8
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Weak? You need to reevaluate the situation.

Any of the suggestions given here are viable for AB play. It just depends on what the opposing Faction is running at any given time.

Scythewars tear through mobs, Hammer Warrs KD mobs or shutdown solo cappers, Defy Pain Warrs irritate and stall mobs... it's all in how you view the situation.

I play a Warrior most AB's that I enter, unless there is too much melee hate or all I see running around are 'Sins. I fill the role that needs to be filled, whether it is running as a bodyguard for a solo capper or as a satellite to add bodies to a shrine cap or turn the tide when there's a fracas. There is always something that you can add to an AB team, you just have to know what you can and can't do with your current build and be adaptable enough to keep a cool head when things change.
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22   #9
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3. [build prof=Warrior/any Axe=12+1+1 Strength=12+1][Dismember][Body Blow][Executioner's Strike][optional][Bulls str][Frenzy][Battle Rag][res sig][/build]
First of all res isn't needed in AB

second of all [battle rage][frenzy] = ?????
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39   #10
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Can someone please explain to me why people are actually suggesting Defy Pain as a good elite....?
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09   #11
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Wow guys thanks for all the help. I really want to play as warrior because thats the only character I have built up, I have a few others but they are weak and have no skills and no good weapons.

Thanks for all the builds, I would never be able to think up builds like those on my own, but I have a problem with all of them. I noticed this in pve too so its not a pvp thing, some of the skills seems to be unable to use, why? I have all chapters plus eye of the north so can't be that I don't have access to the skills.
Also some of the skills seem to be unavailable from the skill trainer, I looked everywhere but can't find them.
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56   #12
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Can someone please explain to me why people are actually suggesting Defy Pain as a good elite....?
It was buffed awhile ago and made it on to every Warrior's bar who thinks a Warrior's job in PvP is to be a strong and sturdy tank. Anyone who uses this in AB is bad. Anyone who would actually waste time and try killing a Warrior with Defy Pain is worse. AB isn't about killing each other. It's about running around like a chicken with its head cut off and capping shrines.

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First of all res isn't needed in AB

second of all [battle rage][frenzy] = ?????
Those are just good in general PvP axe bars he can run. I'm pretty sure he's smart enough to know how to mod it for AB. Take out the Res Signet and put in whatever skill you think you will need.

Battle Rage does not make you lose all adrenaline when it ends anymore. Use it as a replacement for Rush to break out of Frenzy. Use it to build up adrenaline really fast. Use Frenzy when your adrenaline is built, or to spike. Break out of Frenzy with Battle Rage. Repeat..get the idea?

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I noticed this in pve too so its not a pvp thing, some of the skills seems to be unable to use, why? I have all chapters plus eye of the north so can't be that I don't have access to the skills.
Also some of the skills seem to be unavailable from the skill trainer, I looked everywhere but can't find them.
If a skill can't be used, it's either not unlocked, or you don't have access to a chapter.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

You can search up skills and see how to get them on that site.

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Old Nov 12, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21   #13
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If a skill can't be used, it's either not unlocked, or you don't have access to a chapter.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

You can search up skills and see how to get them on that site.
No I have all chapters and the expansion, I have the skill (because I just bought it) and I put it on my skillbar, it looks ok, but when the match starts its like its reloading, except it never reloads. It's very deceptive.

As for the skills, the wiki says that just a few skill trainers have all skills of a chapter, but I visit them all and they don't have the skills. I didn't buy the bonus mission pack maybe thats why I don't have them. And now its too late
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 03:35 PM // 15:35   #14
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No I have all chapters and the expansion, I have the skill (because I just bought it) and I put it on my skillbar, it looks ok, but when the match starts its like its reloading, except it never reloads. It's very deceptive.
I think you're talking about Adrenaline Skills. Those skills need to be "charged" before can be used. YOu need to gain adrenaline attacking, and the skills will be ready to use.
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41   #15
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(on [defy pain] )It was buffed awhile ago and made it on to every Warrior's bar who thinks a Warrior's job in PvP is to be a strong and sturdy tank. Anyone who uses this in AB is bad. Anyone who would actually waste time and try killing a Warrior with Defy Pain is worse. AB isn't about killing each other. It's about running around like a chicken with its head cut off and capping shrines.
It allows for tanking, yes, but the point of it is: you can use the other 7 slots for decency since you're not locked in Tactics (uuuuuuugh).



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(on [battle rage][frenzy] )Those are just good in general PvP axe bars he can run. I'm pretty sure he's smart enough to know how to mod it for AB. Take out the Res Signet and put in whatever skill you think you will need.

Battle Rage does not make you lose all adrenaline when it ends anymore. Use it as a replacement for Rush to break out of Frenzy. Use it to build up adrenaline really fast. Use Frenzy when your adrenaline is built, or to spike. Break out of Frenzy with Battle Rage. Repeat..get the idea?
Haha thanks

My point was that I'd rather not cancel Battle Rage. At all. Not even for Frenzy... x2 adren and perma speed boost is just too juicy in my book.

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Old Nov 13, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #16
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Just about anything can work in PvE, I even run a [charge] bar just to move my party around quicker to cap shrines sometimes.

party build > player skill > player build
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 04:35 AM // 04:35   #17
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More armor, more hp, and since the recent buff to it, damage reduction.

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Old Nov 14, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52   #18
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I think you're talking about Adrenaline Skills. Those skills need to be "charged" before can be used. YOu need to gain adrenaline attacking, and the skills will be ready to use.
Wow.... Ok that's weird, skills with charges. I don't seem to have any, can I buy it or something? Like in Diablo.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 09:49 AM // 09:49   #19
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No. Read the next sentence. You need to attack to gain adrenaline. 1 hit will give you 1 adrenaline. You'll gain adrenaline by getting hit aswell, but it takes a crapload of hits to get a single strike, so it's negligible.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 01:23 PM // 13:23   #20
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No. Read the next sentence. You need to attack to gain adrenaline. 1 hit will give you 1 adrenaline. You'll gain adrenaline by getting hit aswell, but it takes a crapload of hits to get a single strike, so it's negligible.
Aha ok... I feel kinda stupid now. I also feel a bit stupid because of the skills I couldn't find at the trainers, apparently I have to kill enemies and capture those skills so that's solved then.

Ok next question. I noticed that some of those builds posted has more than once stance in them. But you can't use two stances at the same time.
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